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I was coming home from the hospital after this thing got aboard. I crossed the river

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across the river crossing on the back road coming towards the manor. I waited for the

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oil to come to the gas pass across the river and the road was up in a blue iridescent light.

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My first thought was that it was the helicopter that put the river aboard at the hospital

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because it has a blue light under it. I thought at the time that he was flying too low I thought he would hit the trees and

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you know, stand so low. I couldn't get out of the blue light, it kept up with me so I

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slowed down thinking that he would keep going and give me on the speed and I would back out of the light.

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I didn't slow down with me. So I thought maybe he was trying to signal the car if he wants the car to stop.

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So I stopped the car and the thing I wouldn't normally do on a back road on my own, I wouldn't get out of the car.

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But I had no fear. Never did me there was no noise from the helicopter. I didn't hear and say I had no noise.

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I got out of the car and looked out and here was this enormous flying saucer I call it.

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It was approximately four times wider than the road. It could not have come down on the road if it wanted to land.

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Without flattening the light poles and the sensors on each side, I stood frozen.

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How high above he was.

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Approximately two light poles, just above the trees.

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I barely could see. No more.

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I wasn't looking at the road yet.

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I believe it's a can road. I don't know how the road is going.

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It's a right road.

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The car is roughly one hundred feet long.

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Oh, it's so good.

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But it's right now.

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It's iron.

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Yes.

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I just want to say that.

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The only noise is noise with a low hand.

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My husband told me like an electrical trans-session hand.

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No flashing, no sat.

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No flashing light.

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No windows. Nothing visible.

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It was just hovering above the tree.

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No, it was iridescent blue.

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The whole thing was glowing and the glow from it was reflecting on the road.

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It wasn't seeing a beam of light.

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It was illuminating the whole road.

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My brain was going to be lamp.

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The light was glowing.

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So was it.

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And what about, you know...

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I would say that at the riser point in the middle, it would be 20 feet high.

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What was the shape of the...

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The last nail shell.

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The last one.

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The bell shape.

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No, another leaf of the bell.

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Put two ordinary hairpots of one on top of the other and you have to shape it.

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There was no roof standing up.

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Just the slide was on top of the...

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Exactly, that's right.

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That's how I would...

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If anybody said we draw it, that's what I would draw.

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And then you have to shape it on top of the other.

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My brain was straighting at me and moved and I couldn't.

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And then I eventually get power to move.

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I got back into the car and went fast as I could possibly drive the car.

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But it followed me for eight miles between the salons and the station.

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The lights?

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Yes, they were on.

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Because they didn't know the road.

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I went back later and they explained to me that from there to where I saw it,

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to where it reached me, was approximately eight miles.

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When I got to what I call civilisation and demand, where all the lights came back on,

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it just lit.

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It didn't flurred, it went back with it.

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But it didn't flurrle or tick.

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It just changed direction.

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And there was a stretch of light and it was gone.

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When you said it went back, did you mean it reversed?

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Reversed.

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That's right, but it didn't.

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It didn't turn.

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No.

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It just changed direction.

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It will start before it went back.

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No.

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It just changed direction.

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One minute at the Whippetow, the next second at the Garnvett,

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there was a stretch of light and then it was a star and sky at the start.

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Garnvett's light.

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Garnvett's light.

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You didn't see that in the stretch?

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I saw the stretch of light and well, I thought, well, you know, there's a star, it's gone.

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I kept on going to Drumana.

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I first got to the police station.

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No police station.

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No police in the police station at Drumana.

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In the police station.

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So I got back in my car, went on the roadside.

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We used the roadside police station, said I'd been fired at home,

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and that he'd need to go outside.

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And I said, you won't catch it.

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I think it was a fine source of it.

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And he said, oh, they'd be coming and sit down.

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You know, I think it's a total gone off.

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Well, I told you all that what I'd seen and said I wanted to make an official report.

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And he said that he was reported to the authority and to Galhain, which I think I came from.

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And he's from the husband, what I would say.

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And he made it come to the scene.

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That's all for that night.

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The next morning, I reneged at four.

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They informed me that I had probably seen some sort of phenomenon.

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And that they'd send me a questionnaire and filled in and sent back.

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Which they did.

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I filled it in.

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I might have said it was quite a difficult thing to fill in.

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I think there needs to be a national to tell you what they've, you know, how they put down.

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They don't put it through ordinary everyday people, which we are.

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You need to be a part of trying to think some of the questions.

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I tended to fill it back in.

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Yeah, I filled it back.

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And that was the first time.

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The press and timing was 22 days later on the 26th of July.

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Same time, 1972.

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Same time and approximately the same time.

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I came over the same way I was crossing.

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And I passed a man with a torching driving, leaving his cow on a road.

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We both passed the crossing at the same time.

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I got four or five hundred yards past the man when the road was up again.

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I knew what it was, just straight away.

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But we suddenly accelerated and I hurried away.

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I was a ten minute stuntman.

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I wasn't even going to get there.

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But anybody.

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I was fed over half a night going past the man in his calf.

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Completely cut off.

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I had no control of the calf at all.

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I couldn't steer it.

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I couldn't stop it.

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And even though I turned the engine key, I couldn't stand it either.

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Even you're still moving at this point.

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Gliding to a stop to the side of the road.

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You're still moving.

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No, nothing.

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Nothing was.

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I didn't have any control at all.

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I started to.

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No, I couldn't steer it.

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Well, I was steering the whole thing.

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Everything was working but not controlling the car.

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The headlight was still on on full beam.

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I drive with full beam on it because there's no street lights.

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And it just glided to a stop to the side of the road.

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And the bed on the side of the road.

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I set the test side.

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I thought, well, I'm going this time.

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This is hard to explain because what happened is like sitting in a vacuum.

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And it's hard to describe what the rest of this was like.

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There was no sound at all.

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It was like sitting in a tube.

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And that's not the only way you can describe it in a tube.

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It felt like it.

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I had to see that I was clearly being in a sound with a tube.

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Yeah, it was in a vacuum.

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It was hard to describe.

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It was in a vacuum.

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Yeah, except for the sound.

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Yeah, nothing.

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There was just no sound.

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Nothing.

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Nothing breath of air.

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It was just a really loud sound.

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I then had the feeling that I was receiving a message from this thing which was about the car.

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I could see it over the car.

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You know, right around the car.

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Now, without getting it off the back of the seat,

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the first thought was I didn't understand it.

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And I knew I was getting some sort of a message, but I couldn't understand it.

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I don't speak any foreign language, and I felt that I was receiving this message in a foreign language.

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In a foreign language?

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Yeah.

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There was no voices.

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Nothing was sound.

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Just a deadly cry.

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I was reading the message that I was getting.

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It was translated into English.

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Beautiful English.

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Not English like we speak.

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Beautifully spoken English.

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You could hear this for the MRI.

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That's right.

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Yes.

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Hear the actual words.

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Hear the words.

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Hear the words without hearing the voice.

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No voice, no sound, nothing.

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No, that level of sound, that external sound.

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But in your mind, it was just because I wasn't even speaking.

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That's right.

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And I wouldn't say that I couldn't determine whether it was male or female.

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It was just a voice.

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Speaking of message.

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First thought of the message was,

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burn your tests will be negative.

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Then there was a call.

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And it said, tell the media, do not take, we need no harm.

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Then there was a long call.

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And then it said, you now have control.

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A car slammed up.

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All right, so I still had both hands on the steering wheel.

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The blue light went out.

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And I suppose it was gone.

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I just sat on the side of the road with the car engine ticking over.

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No sound still.

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Just sitting there in the dark.

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Put the hand again.

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And off I went.

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I didn't panic like I did the first time.

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I might not get to the house with the telephone.

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I must ring the police.

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There may be some sign of this thing still a bit.

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I hope they can get here in time.

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I would say seven miles before I could find the house with the light.

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I'm close enough to the road to go in.

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But all I'm trying to say is back off the road.

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But not close enough to drive in.

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You have to go down South Street and things to get to them.

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Not these people out there and say could I come in?

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That I'd had a fright on the road.

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And could I ring the police?

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And they said no.

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They didn't have the phone off.

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So I got back into the car and went straight through to Road That Police Station

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where I'd been before.

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With great interest with, you know, not you again.

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I told them that I had a downing scene of this object.

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And that I had received a message from it and I didn't know what to do with it.

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I said I wanted to make an official report.

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I didn't want it just written down and passed off.

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But I wanted it to be official because I had seen this thing

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because I thought the people should know that it was a theft.

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Went home and tell my husband I was free again.

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So this time I rang the air force straight away.

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And he just said, I was late.

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I'll pass it on to the right authority.

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I then received a couple of days later another questionnaire to be filled in in return,

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which I think I reported it the next day, on the Wednesday,

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to Radio Station 3AW, when the TV station to last and hang up.

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I'm seeing that I've seen this report in Camelam,

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and took an interview which will be played later in the month of the week

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and the month of August.

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And that's it up to date.

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And I hope I don't see it again.

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Well, thank you very much.

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That's a very clear and coherent description of the code of love, isn't it?

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Thank you.

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Just a few questions I'd like to ask you to that one in relation to this.

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Naturally, first of all, I'd like to know,

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have you ever had any similar experiences with this?

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No, never.

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Have you been interested in new affairs before?

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No.

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Not at all?

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Not at all.

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You've never read anything about it?

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No.

256
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Like this.

257
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Have you had any psychic experiences with this?

258
00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,240
No.

259
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I'm just trying to always relate.

260
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:17,240
And why do you think the same thing to you?

261
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The only reason I can get this is that I was alone on a lonely road.

262
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Now what else about?

263
00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,240
Yes, but then how do you account for something?

264
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Twice?

265
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Twenty-nine times?

266
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Twenty-nine times.

267
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And have you ever seen the same color?

268
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I don't know.

269
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I can't explain.

270
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And you've never had any psychic experiences?

271
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No, nothing at all.

272
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I've never been interested in fine thoughts at all.

273
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I like to watch the fake things on TV.

274
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You've had one of those especially?

275
00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,240
No.

276
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Have you ever had any psychic experiences with this?

277
00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,240
No.

278
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You've never been given to this nation?

279
00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,240
No.

280
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Have you seen it?

281
00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,240
No.

282
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Did you ever have any other experiences with this?

283
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No.

284
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I only went in the morning, but I reported it to the radio stations that was on the Talks

285
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That program.

286
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And three or four people from around on the peninsula, means say that they had seen the

287
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light from this object.

288
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One lady, you mean, said that her husband had seen the object, that he had gone inside

289
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the peninsula, and the time he came out of the dock.

290
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What time did she say the case?

291
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Nine, fifteen at night.

292
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The time?

293
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It was nine.

294
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Because I only heard the talk about programming or part of it.

295
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She was referring to the war in the radio station, and she had said that it was a marvellous

296
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event.

297
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I didn't think of that.

298
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,240
No.

299
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What was it when it went?

300
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Losing framework.

301
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That's possible.

302
00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,240
Anyway, that's certainly the most interesting and unused experience.

303
00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,240
Actually, I have heard a couple of similar stories about it in America.

304
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,240
One of them was in the British capital, South Sydney.

305
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,240
Very similar thing happened in South Sydney, which he spent his time and sort of had to

306
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chew the blood.

307
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I think I mentioned it before.

308
00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:20,240
And the only light that was on was the illumination from this incredible light.

309
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That's all.

310
00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,240
And then you just hear a bit of blue glow.

311
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There was no shine.

312
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

313
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

314
00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

315
00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

316
00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

317
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

318
00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,240
It was just a little bit of blue.

319
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,240
Anyway, well, thanks very much for the time you've spent here.

320
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You've told us a little bit.

321
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,240
I think you've done it for me a little bit.

322
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,240
So you don't mind if I play this in the crime gallery or in the crime gallery?

323
00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,240
No, nothing.

324
00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,240
Thank you very much.

325
00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,240
Well, there's one other thing, something which I meant to mention.

326
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,240
You mentioned briefly about some experience you've had in between the two crimes.

327
00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,240
Can you tell us a bit about that?

328
00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:16,240
On the Monday night before the second starting, which was the Monday, the 24th of July,

329
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I usually go to see the visitation in the hospital.

330
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On Monday's Wednesday and Friday, well, this week I didn't.

331
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I went on the Tuesday night and the Thursday night.

332
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On the Monday night, I was home making trades from the little daughter's doll.

333
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And I thought I heard someone call my name.

334
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I was looking at her house and someone's calling.

335
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And they went out into the back and there was no one there.

336
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And they live on the corner.

337
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,240
And I thought at the time that anyone passing, you know,

338
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and I'd just seen voices of people passing in the street.

339
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I didn't give it any more thought.

340
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And went to bed and only 11 o'clock.

341
00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:04,240
And the whole night long, I was kept awake by this voice,

342
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,240
repeatedly calling my name, Maureen, over and over again.

343
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,240
All right, I hope you can explain to me how that's done.

344
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:18,240
Just as I was back then, I was calling, Maureen, Maureen, over and over again.

345
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,240
How long was it?

346
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,240
All night.

347
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:26,240
Twice I got back to see the little daughter to describe, or when she was in her bedroom,

348
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,240
she was found asleep looking at the daughter.

349
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And there was a lady, an old lady, at the end of that block.

350
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And I thought she might have fallen over or she maybe sick and she was about calling me.

351
00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,240
And I went out into the back yard and there was nobody there either.

352
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,240
There was nobody about.

353
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,240
I came inside, locked up into bed, back to bed again.

354
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,240
I thought long enough, didn't make any noise.

355
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,240
When I got to sleep again, this was a two-year reward.

356
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,240
And I was calling all night long.

357
00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,240
Was it inside your head or outside your head?

358
00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,240
I would say inside, maybe.

359
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,240
Did anybody else do it?

360
00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,240
No.

361
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,240
You can't do it?

362
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,240
No.

363
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,240
Yes, indeed.

364
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,240
In the sleep?

365
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,240
No.

366
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,240
In the sleep?

367
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,240
In the sound sleep.

368
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,240
In the sleep?

369
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,240
In the sound sleep.

370
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240
But then you had an area of meeting in your bedroom.

371
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,240
That's right.

372
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,240
You were having a meeting.

373
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,240
You didn't hear it then either.

374
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,240
I think it might have been in your mind.

375
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,240
I think it might have been in your mind.

376
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,240
I rang my mother early in the morning to see if she was alright.

377
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,240
I thought, well, maybe there's something wrong.

378
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,240
We're not getting messages.

379
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,240
It's been months and she's fine.

380
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,240
And she asked me why and I said,

381
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,240
because I think she's got voice call and they're all night long.

382
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,240
Can't explain it.

383
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,240
It just happened.

384
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,240
And then it was on the Tuesday morning and then on the Tuesday night,

385
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,240
I had a second time.

386
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,240
It was the night at the same, well, the next night.

387
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,240
The next night I had to start.

388
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,240
The next night I would usually have been at the hospital on my right hand.

389
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,240
You can get it on the Tuesday night instead.

390
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,240
First thing in the morning, just in.

391
00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,240
Thank you very much.